I simply cannot understand how Ashbery repeatedly gets singled out as a whipping boy. \rOn the last day, or the first, is our reach the same? Richard’s work on Pessoa goes beyond translation. Is it law suits you're worried about, or the china closet?\rLet's get some Chile in the air!\rChristopher. nailed into sand the horse ripped open top to bottom in the sun.. None of them say anything about being comprehensive. Come over here, woman!! This is all intentional, as Guardian writer Andrew Gallix reports that Warhol wanted to produce a "bad novel." You haven't read the poem, but it contrasts the daily desire for transformation - here figured as the an engagement with the poetic tradition epitomized by Marvell's line "As one put drunk into the Packet-boat" - with "night, the reserved, the reticent," which "gives more than it takes," in which such transformative longing is deferred. In the new LRB, there is a very good piece limning the ways that Larkin and his friends did so:\rhttp://www.lrb.co.uk/v31/n12/coll01_.html\r"Power and legitimacy" is a direct result of thoughtful self-positioning and self-creation. What's the matter with you"\r"Ha ha, hee, hee, I saaaiiid...! Throw away all three, Tere---obviously your dictionaries aren't for poets as they've failed to spot the metaphor!\rInteresting word, actually. If Picasso is the Prince of Cubism, then surely Dalí is the King of Surrealism. THE COUSIN into the sky. Check the win box on this one. Get my pinkie, tie it in a knot!\rI think I'm also commenting on the fact that there's this kind of unwritten rule that says don't talk too specifically about people, and above all not about a living poet. Also: Wm. 'Lunar saliva?' \rLikewise, all painters don’t paint in the same fashion. Cats, unlike dogs, have no problem knowing who they are! John Lennon: Published in Liverpool music mag Mersey Beat on the 27 Feb 1964, ‘The Tales of Hermit Fred’ and ‘The Land… She created a fairytale called Invisible Flower when she was 19 years old, written in a quasi-children’s book style, featuring lines of prose matched with paintings and sketches. A. Martin's first ¶ first draft:\rThe analogy of Thomas Mann at his letter desk is, recompense me, symbolical. Though Diving Bell didn't win any Oscars, it did pick up AFI's Movie of the Year award, and took home the Best Director award at Cannes. Writing a poem is always an act of inheritance, a struggle with a lineage. \rAs to photography, by returning from digital to analogue I’ve come to see analogue as a kind of “slow art”. The inability to understand this is precisely the reason that Ashbery is able to trick so many contemporary poet-tasters and fools into a certain admiration of his 'depth’ and 'inaccessibility.’ \rFor the fool, the inaccessible has a real existence, when, in fact, by its very definition, it has none. It is a bigger problem than all of us. Indeed, I would say I don't agree with him even 25% of the time, and probably even never. The only one I missed was a photo of Thomas Mann at his writing desk; I had to Google that up on my own.\rThank you. The placid in his studio is impeccable; filled with antiquarian trinkets, a frizzled middle-class density pervades. J.A. A perspective necessarily situated entirely outside of experience. The Zen masters said it took a lifetime to make one stroke well. \rMany Iranians do support the Supreme Leader; there's often a large, conservative, religious core in any society, those who prefer allowing a Supreme Leader to take care of things...the conservative impulse is always strong, because, let's face it, one cannot be protesting and questioning all the time, often one just wants to live a quotidian existence with a fixed amount of routines and certainties...a passive, optimistic belief, an acceptance...we all need this to some extent...so Ashbery-ism will be forever attractive...the curious thing about Ashbery-ism in the U.S. is that Ashbery is considered, ironically enough, avant garde...the MOMA cred...the Gertrude Stein, William James, Auden cred...but these are, in fact, highly conservative impulses, all of them... it just amuses me that an Iranian might escape the madness of his own country and then check out the U.S. poetry/art/avant scene and think...this is great...and yet...there's something vaguely familiar...\rThe acceptable inane.\rIt can live in all sorts of guises... Brian,\r'going along for the ride' can certainly be a pleasure and a relief. He was also seen hobnobbing with the likes of Ernest Hemingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Sinclair Lewis, and James Joyce, all guests of Stein and Alice B. Toklas's salon gatherings in Paris. He also wrote the short story, ‘Bhikharini’ in 1877 and the poem collection, ‘Sandhya Sangit’ in 1882. It’s still in the “other recent posts” section, at the bottom of the page, “The Fallacy of Rejecting Closure.” I take up photography there. The essay suggests that earliest human art was representational and that poetry is tied to this first instance of cave painting. As to Robert Frost, did he have to try, was there any inability in his art at all? You're damn right it's proscriptive. His stories have appeared both online and in print, including most recently in Apex Magazine, freeze frame flash fiction and Grievous Angel. "\rBut also the artist's mess and dysfunction, the intolerable wrestle with the floorboards on Mercer Street, and then on up to Broom (what names!). There are many painters who have resisted the post war dominance of conceptual art: Hockney, Gerhard Richter, Julian Freud, Kitaj, Paula Rego, Jane Freilicher and my friend Pontus Carle, just to name a few off the top of my head. There are the towering examples, from Michelangelo to Gertrude Stein, Cummings to John Ashbery, who for many years made his living as an art critic, while pretty much refusing to engage in literary criticism. No self-doubt there, whatever the secret demons that beset him in his heart.\rChristopher, Adding to applause, Martin for a beautifully written post. I think you've all either been through, or too near, or judged too often by an academic system that so emphasizes secondary material that you're afraid of the text. How fortuitous, in my spew above that I used the following to describe Ashbery:\r"We err is by assuming that the accessible is shallow and the inaccessible is deep. With its fascination for the pure forms of antiquity, it insisted upon a return to classical Latin, which hindered its further growth as working language. Once anything becomes accessible, the whole notion of accessibility or inaccessibility fades away as we experience the thing and it becomes accessible. Christopher: I spent a year traveling down through Latin America in the 90's, hanging out with poets. \rWe, as readers, would be miserable, too, IF we were able to experience Ashbery's hell, but we never do, because the dosage isn't strong enough...we merely smile because the dosage is very small...\rThomas. In fact, the opposite is true: accessibility allows us to go in, inaccessibility does not. The, let them gradually melt What subterranean processes we put ourselves through to mine these nuggets. But a deep & genuine reading of Ashbery reveals how truly he is what Grossman calls him: "He is fundamentally a manager of traditional resources. Vibrant. (for example) but this is not criticism; in this case it is an essay on cave paintings, which is quite different, and sometimes it makes for didactic poems, and they seem all the more artless when used as an argument in a critical discussion. Mr. Emerson, of course, was William James' godfather--James taught Gertrude Stein and Santayana who taught Eliot and Wallace Stevens at Harvard.\rI am glad distinguished defenders of Ashbery are coming out of the woodwork, so to speak, for otherwise we don't get the balance which is always required, even though balance is rarely a simple manner.\rThe poetry world is so small that my taking shots at Mr. A almost feels like I'm saying unpleasant things of a beloved uncle at a family breakfast. So? But what's really important is to recognize that to write a poem like this you have to know fishing as a humble activity as well as a high art, and both Ted Hughes and Virginia Woolf certainly did, and very, very well. I think one of the things that makes American art strong is the existential rigors of living the life. Wonderful, that, over Paris morning coffee, its silver fish of light. Do you believe the "raging moon," for example, or the "lovers abed" or the "singing light" or the "ivory stages" or (ugh!) It's only good form to not comment on a poem you don't like, don't you think? Like Emerson; like Stevens. I believe she's written novels and plays, and illustrated/co-wrote a children's book. Charles Bukowski - bird caged behind wire mesh. Nowhere does he discuss a painter. ", Thank you Michael for this bit; it's wonderfully lucid and dovetails with what Ashbery has recently said, that if he has a subject, it's time.\rMartin. Why do you do this, Gary? 'As one put drunk into a packet boat.' '\rWell I say to hell with your manifestos of IMAGE and COLOR.\rDown with flatness and inaccessibility! \rThe point I’m trying to make about public persona is that it misleads the public as to the true nature of the poetry. This \rwas so ah ! Where and when I can. He also wrote about places he visited and things he saw. Or maybe you've got the Guernica coffee mug? (Or an Unlocking The Secrets Of The Universe competition between Stephen Hawking and Roger Federer.). Painters like Hockney, who seriously study the masters, are very important to me, as a poet. Tools. 'as one put drunk' and 'packet boat' is enough, by itself, in its phrasing and vocabulary, to win the day. Maybe whoever wrote the parody thought I was overarching. I'm well brought-up, so don't worry, I won't start f-ing. \rPoems should never be posted here unless they specifically address the issue. Sorry, but that's how it is. 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